Part 2: Origins

After months of reporting, Jennings goes to Utah for one final interview with Teal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices 

A look back at a strange chapter of American history known as the Satanic Panic—and how it connects to Teal. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices 

[Content Warning: This episode contains references to suicide, mental illness, and sexual assault. Listener discretion advised.] Youtube spiritual guru Teal Swan says she saves lives. Others say she’s dangerously death-obsessed. We say she’s serving strong “9 Perfect Strangers” v ...  Show more

A native Texan opens up to Geth about leaving everything behind after her mom's death and moving to Thailand. She shares a crazy story about the time she got robbed then moved in with a Muay Thai fighter. She also talks about the complicated relationship she had with her mom i ...

Through their spiritual mentors, Alana and Simon are introduced to Conversion Therapy. A deep dive into the psychological & theological theories behind this practice. This episode contains references to suicide. If you or someone you know is in need of help, please contact the Su ...  Show more

Simon recounts his earlier calling to the priesthood. Alana sneaks out to church, and meets a controversial priest who advises her on becoming a nun. This episode contains references to suicide. If you or someone you know is in need of help, please contact the Suicide and Crisis ...  Show more