506: The Sun Did Not Shine in Favor of Me

The two chairmen (and Myke) regroup to discuss beige accessories and Apple Creator Studio, including its icons. They then dig into what Apple could achieve by moving Siri onto Google’s foundation models. 

The guys grade their predictions made way back in January 2025, then make new ones for 2026. 

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With the release of iOS 18.2 and macOS Sequoia 15.2, Apple Intelligence is truly here -- even if there is still more to come. Plus Apple is in trouble for what's it done and what it hasn't, and there are three new Apple Music radio stations, all on the AppleInsider Podcast.

Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn welcome back Verge alum and Wall Street Journal columnist Joanna Stern to discuss the big announcements from Apple's developer conference this week. Verge news editor Chaim Gartenberg joins in the second half to discuss the Apple updates you may have m ...  Show more

Bonnets off to the BBC, the trouble with headlines, Socrates on mountain skis, some slight existential dread about Mac software, irrational love of old computers, Apple's smart home strategy for 2025, and the long wait for some AI features.