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After hearing the podcast being played from a floppy disk, the guys dive into what WWDC26 could bring for Apple Intelligence and revisit what John Ternus could bring to the CEO role at Apple. 

Stephen has been a menace all week with Lil Finder, Myke keeps thinking about the MacBook Neo, and Federico shares his most recent thoughts on foldable phones. 

As rumor season kicks into high gear, we discuss Apple's potential new app, more reports about its VR headset, and some updates about forthcoming Mac hardware. This episode of Upgrade is sponsored by: Zocdoc: Find the right doctor, right now with Zocdoc. Sign up for free. Lad ...  Show more

Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn welcome back Verge alum and Wall Street Journal columnist Joanna Stern to discuss the big announcements from Apple's developer conference this week. Verge news editor Chaim Gartenberg joins in the second half to discuss the Apple updates you may have m ...  Show more

David is launching a scholarship program with the Productivity Field Guide, Stephen bought a new e-reader, and they both have spent some time in their Inboxes to bring feedback to the show this week. 

With the release of iPadOS 13.4, William and Stephen discuss the new mouse and trackpad support, new iPad model benchmarks, iCloud folder sharing, Face ID coming to the Mac, and tips for live streaming at home.