It's the best of times and the...let's call it "most challenging" of times...Heather and Lindsay discuss making their kids feel TOO special, holiday plans and stressors, and the BEST gift that Heather's ever given to Terry.

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Ashley Tisdale Was Right

When you have four kids, you've been around the toxic-mom block. Heather calls out the competition of it all, while Terry comments on how different the dads are.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. 

This Is Rich Coming From Us But…

Do Heather and Terry have a significant age gap? Yes. Does that mean they won't judge other couples? Of course not.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. 

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