The TWENTY30

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An inflection point in the region + a conversation on education, learning, and training in the AI age

Hanaa and Lucien are BACK. The hosts catch up with each other, with Lucien discussing a recent long-haul trip back to the United States from Saudi Arabia (with 3 children in tow!). The hosts take some time to discuss their show’s recent deliberate break since the start of Ramadan ... Show more

. 49min 54sec

Saudi music producer Saud Alturki: 'High Octane,' Busta Rhymes and the pressure that made him

The TWENTY30's co-hosts Hanaa Almoaibed and Lucien Zeigler sit down with Saud Alturki, Saudi music producer, curator, and founder of Brij Entertainment ahead of the release of his third album, High Octane. A project two and a half years in the making, the track list reads like a ... Show more

. 47min 27sec

CEO of the World Defense Show Andrew Pearcey joins to preview all things WDS 2026 in Riyadh

Andrew Pearcey, CEO of the World Defense Show (WDS 2026), joins hosts Lucien Zeigler and Hanaa Almoaibed for an exclusive interview and conversation ahead of the upcoming event set to take place in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, from February 8 to 12. Andrew shares insights into the uniqu ... Show more

. 50min 53sec

A new era: looking forward after HRH the Crown Prince visits Washington - Presented by BECHTEL

In this special episode of The TWENTY30 Presented by Bechtel Saudi Arabia, hosts Lucien and Hanaa dedicate the full episode to analyze the significance and future impact of Saudi Arabia's Crown Prince to Washington as a new era in US-Saudi relations begins. This episode features ... Show more

. 1h 47min

Soft Power

In Episode 64, hosts Hanaa and Lucien kick off by catching up on more travel and some interesting feedback they received. Then Hanaa leads a DEEPDIVE on how Saudi Arabia is building a national skills ecosystem to reshape its economy and elevate its global influence - and leaning ... Show more

. 43min 14sec